I found event log problems, but when I sent them to Microsoft, they were generic and suggested solutions, relating to running msconfig did not effect my issue, nor were McAfee involved.
SA may have been conflicting with another add on, but it was SA that caused the problem as adding everyone back, but SA, has the system running properly. Only readding SA, in the context of several others, brought the problem back.
All uninstall were done using Windows uninstaller utilities, not sure of other trustworthy ways to do it.
My system works. I uninstalled and reinstalled mcAfee total security and did not include SA and that is how I now run the computer.
This problem only arose after reinstalling mcafee following it being installed 2 months over a legacy norton scan utility. This impacted updating and some other sporadic functionalities solely related to Mcafee. So it may be related to an update that norton blocked.
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